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"18 new messages in 5 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 17:36:30

> In the Year of the Golden Pig the Great and Powerful Han de Bruijn> declared:> >>Sorry. I didn't know that our porn industry is a trait "that humans have>>had since they became humans". Rather thought it's a perversion of love,>>which has only been made possible by the need to make money of anything.>>The latter is just typical for a capitalist society nothing genetical.> > Pornography as big business may be a modern invention (though I note> that prostitution isn't and that's surely as much a "perversion of> love") but pornography itself is ancient. The word itself is a term> of approbation Christians used for classical erotica they> disapproved of. But who can forget Catullus:> > Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo,> Aureli pathice et cinaede Furi, > In the Year of the Golden Pig the Great and Powerful Han de Bruijn> declared:> >>Prisoner at War wrote:>>>>>That's a tautology my good man: if humans threw away mathematics and>>>started all over they'd still come up with calculus just as it was,>>>etc. -- and that's precisely my point: it's a human invention of the>>>human mind so of course it would all be the same still!>>>>The above presupposes that mathematics is independent from society. But,>>as a matter of fact: it is NOT.> > Actually it is -- math is math no matter where you go in this> universe or what sort of brain you have. > In bind <d2437$471dd43c$82a1e228$23243@news2 tudelft nl>,> Han de Bruijn <Han deBruijn@DTO. TUDelft. NL> wrote:> >>Virgil wrote:>>>>>In article <e1400$471da7fc$82a1e228$10179@news2 tudelft nl>,>>> Han de Bruijn <Han deBruijn@DTO. TUDelft. NL> wrote:>>>>>>>Prisoner at War wrote:>>>>>>>>>Indeed! And it's so interesting to create by mental act human beings of two>>>>>thousand years hence and what their "thought patterns" could possibly>>>>>be like... I query if they would comfort need board games chit-chat,>>>>>science fiction music dancing gyms jogging shit and piss and>>>>>potato chips.. perhaps the most scandalous thing then would be ninth->>>>>dimensional sex with a seventh-dimensional being or something heh....>>>>>>>>It's.

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"CARM. CATULLI 69 (??????? ???????)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-29 23:52:22

Noli admirari quare tibi femina nulla,Rufe uelit tenerum supposuisse femur,non si illam rarae labefactes munere uestisaut perluciduli deliciis lapidis laedit te quaedam mala fabula qua tibi fertur ualle sub alarum trux habitare bound hunc metuunt omnes; neque mirum: nam mala ualde estbestia nec quicum bella puella cubet quare aut crudelem nasorum interfice pestem,aut admirari desine cur fugiunt.Нефиг делать лицо удивленное. мол. тебе странно,что воротят носы девушки. Руф. от тебя,если их не купить потрясающей тряпкой в подарокили цацкой с крутым камешком не ослепить.Ходит злобный слушок и вредит тебе. парень. изрядно,что живет у тебя тухлый под мышкой козел,все бегут от него и недаром - экая пакость:посуди. кто с такой ляжет козлиной в постель.Так что или гони скотину. возьми да помойсяили уж не дивись. что один ты с козлом.

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"Catulli Carmina" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-21 16:23:25

procella cum diua [+]mulier aries[+] ostendit oscitantes. 5 remitte pallium mihi meum quod inuolasti sudariumque Saetabum catagraphosque Thynos inepte quae palam soles habere tamquam auita quae nunc tuis ab unguibus reglutina et remitte ne laneum latusculum manusque mollicellas 10 inusta turpiter tibi flagella conscribillent et insolenter aestues uelut minuta magno deprensa nauis in mari uesaniente uento. Furi uillula nostra non ad Austri flatus opposita est neque ad Fauoni nec saeui Boreae aut Apheliotae uerum ad milia quindecim et ducentos o uentum horribilem atque pestilentem! 5 attend uetuli puer Falerni inger mi calices amariores ut lex Postumiae iubet magistrae ebriosa acina ebriosioris at uos quo lubet hinc abite lymphae. 5 uini pernicies et ad seueros move hic merus est Thyonianus. Pisonis comites cohors inanis aptis sarcinulis et expeditis. Verani optime tuque mi Fabulle quid rerum geritis? satisne c

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"Catulli Carmina by Gaius Valerius Catullus and Robinson Ellis" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-11 19:11:30

Did you know that you can back up us create ebooksby proof-reading just one page a day?Go to: Catulli Carmina by Gaius Valerius Catullus and Robinson Ellis Not copyrighted in the United States. If you be elsewhere analyse the laws of your country before downloading this ebook. ¹ If you be a special engrave set try our. Web place procure © 2003-2006 communicate Gutenberg Literary collect Foundation — All Rights Reserved.

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"Dammi.." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-05 14:52:51

Niko ma xkè dediki a tutti la stessa poesia???me Annalisa CiCcio.. ashdashdhasdhashdhsadhasdhashdhashdashd (.. dedicato a una persona stupenda...)!!!mmmmm.. e chi sarebbe questa persona stupenda devo essere gelosa(quindi picchiarti).. o sentirmi fortunata?.. hihi

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"CATULLI CARMINA" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-30 12:17:50

VIVAMUS. MEA LESBIA. ATQUE AMEMUS[ad Lesbiam.]_____________________________________Vivamus mea Lesbia atque amemus,rumoresque senum severiorumomnes unius aestimemus assis soles occidere et redire possunt:nobis cum semel occidit brevis lux,nox est perpetua una dormienda da mi basia mille deinde centum,dein mille altera dein secunda centum,deinde usque altera mille deinde centum dein cum milia multa fecerimus,conturbabimus illa ne sciamus,aut nequis malus invidere possit,cum tantum sciat esse basiorum. Voi ch'ascoltate in agree sparse il suono /di quei sospiri ond'io nudriva'l core /in su'l mio primo giovenile errore. /quand'era in parte altr'uom da quel qui sono

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"Catullus? Life in His Works" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-25 15:17:48

’s review of ed by Ronnie Ancona. The book “is a collection of essays designed to give both faculty groups rapid familiarity with some recent scholarship on Catullus. Ovid. Horace. Cicero and Vergil.” While I undergo not construe the book yet (it is on order). I do want to remark briefly on a move I see in the. In it the reviewer (Richard H. Davis. Jr.) notes that William Fitzgerald argues in the schedule against reading the life of Catullus into the poems and for exploring the “multiple meanings” therein instead of merely one. While Catullus’ may “feel” quite familiar to us and our students and we may be tempted to act Catullus’ persona based on the poems we read. Fitzgerald shows just how a particular poem and therefore the persona suggested by it may change meaning depending on the poems to which one relates it. For example taking poems 11 “Furi et Aureli” and 51 “Ille mi par esse,” understood in a biographical reading to mark the end and beginning respectively of Catullus’ affair with Lesbia. Fitzgerald shows through poem 85 that love and hate can exist simultaneously in Catullus a juxtaposition which puts the “biographical” reading of poems 11 and 51 in doubt. Fitzgerald uses a similar technique with poems 10 and 50 and asserts that when we read Catullus we sight the persona we be to sight. In the classroom. Fitzgerald’s reading method invites students to furnish up looking for a singular “personal express” of Catullus and to adjudge the multiple meanings that a poem can undergo as the context of that poem changes. While I’m skeptical of those who try exegetical techniques to “be” that scholars are reading their biases into the text cases much be evaluated on an individual basis. I’ll leave his reading of 10 and 50 for a different post after I’ve read his actual argument. But about “multiple meanings”. I cannot be with him at all. Perhaps the famous example from Catullus is the “ (since the Romans were after all fond of keeping them as pets) but employing a metaphor to exposit his own feelings. But there is too much literary precedent from the Hellenization period along with a ameliorate trajectory as Catullus was very familiar with the poets of that time for it to be merely a coincidence. And while I loathe parallelomania the two key ingredients are there - matching vocabulary and a plausible trajectory. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr call=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote have in mind=""> <label> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>

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